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Jonathan Foxman's avatar

Some comments are just too detached from reality or hateful and allowing that, let alone engaging with it, serves no purpose. Those comments are deleted and those commenters blocked, so don't waste your time!

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

Francisco Gil White's student stated their lies give us virtue and I've been running with it no engagement just that phrase with 🕊️🇮🇱🕊️🇮🇱🕊️🇮🇱

It triggers them magnificently and no further effort is required unless you wish to use

There is no other nation in the world that has a stronger, longer-standing, and better-documented connection to its land than the Jewish people has to the Land of Israel, and this connection and right do not require the affirmation of foreign governments.

Israel acts in accordance with international law. The establishment of a Jewish state in the Jewish people's ancient homeland, including the settlement by Jews on the land, was clearly recognized in the British Mandate, which was adopted by the League of Nations in 1922. Under the Mandate, the right of the Jewish people to build their national home extended to the entire territory of "Mandatory Palestine."

These rights were preserved under Article 80 of the UN Charter.

We have truth and we are the eternal Nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all, at no time in history have Jews had more freedom power armaments money and a Homeland, 5785 is shaping up prophetically

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Bonnie Geller's avatar

Thank you.

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Alex Sanchez's avatar

Considering israel isn't a signatory to the Rome statute: there is no jurisdiction. Let them eat cake.

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Alex Sanchez's avatar

The sickest part is that the hate won't stop. And, when there is another minority community that demands justice, Jews will continue to be a reliable ally: even when the respect is not reciprocal.

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William Sanchez's avatar

“It is shocking to me what lessons were learned after what the Nazis did to Jewish people during the Holocaust in World War II. Because I learned the lesson of never again, meaning never again should any group of people be so dehumanized and vilified that their extermination is justified and acted on by the people in power. Never again should the world stand idly by while an entire people are being eradicated.

And that is exactly what is happening in Gaza right now. Benjamin Netanyahu is the modern-day Adolf Hitler because he is enacting an extermination campaign. Benjamin Netanyahu's final solution for Palestinians is their starvation, which he is carrying out right now.

So, never again is happening now and Benjamin Netanyahu is criminally responsible for doing it. But that's what's so shocking about the conversations I've been having on Substack. Because one of the things that has been pointed out to me is that many Jewish Israelis do not think that never again applies to non-Jews or the crime of extermination. Their sense of never again is never again should Jewish people be the victims of crimes against humanity. They're perfectly fine with Jewish Israelis being the perpetrators of a genocide and that does not fall under the umbrella of never again to them.

So a lot of times we're using the same words, but we don't mean the same thing. When I say never again, I think never again should people like Palestinians be mass murdered by war criminals like Benjamin Netanyahu. Never again should innocent civilians be deliberately attacked in widespread bombings and shootings and starvation campaigns.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/philosophicalrebellion/p/israels-genocide-of-gaza?r=211fuw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

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Jonathan Foxman's avatar

This is exactly what I'm talking about ... unmoored hatred and grandiose accusations that have zero factual basis (Netanyahu = Hitler, "final solution," "extermination campaign," "civilians deliberately attacked"). You may think, as some do, that the Israeli government is wrong to prosecute the war the way it has but literally nothing you wrote is true.

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Bonnie Geller's avatar

Forget it. It is useless to try to change a robot’s programming. These haters actually prove the point why we need Israel, and how they are so irrational in their hate and brainwashed, they are the modern Red Guards. Mao solved the problem of his own invention, when they turned on Mao and the Chinese Communist Party by sending them to the rural gulag for a decade.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

Please consider instead of despair or engaging with the anti-civilizationists the gift of your lies give us virtue 🕊️🇮🇱

There is no other nation in the world that has a stronger, longer-standing, and better-documented connection to its land than the Jewish people has to the Land of Israel, and this connection and right do not require the affirmation of foreign governments.

Israel acts in accordance with international law. The establishment of a Jewish state in the Jewish people's ancient homeland, including the settlement by Jews on the land, was clearly recognized in the British Mandate, which was adopted by the League of Nations in 1922. Under the Mandate, the right of the Jewish people to build their national home extended to the entire territory of "Mandatory Palestine."

These rights were preserved under Article 80 of the UN Charter.

Screenshot it access Google lens cut copy paste rinse repeat there's no retort there's no answer it's truth it takes the wind out of their sails and triggers them further

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William Sanchez's avatar

Literally everything I wrote is true.

- Benjamin Netanyahu is a wanted war criminal with an international criminal court arrest warrant for directing attacks against civilians and using starvation as a weapon of war against civilians.

When you commit the same crime of extermination as Hitler did you get compared to Hitler, therefore Benjamin Netanyahu is the modern day Adolf Hitler.

Also, Israel has been found guilty of genocide by the overwhelming consensus of the world's leading human rights experts. That includes Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B'tselem, many United Nations experts and special committees, and many more.

So the genocidal Government of Israel is led by a wanted war criminal who is guilty of starving civilians including children to death. That is 100% true and it is happening now.

Never again is happening now and Benjamin Netanyahu is criminally responsible for doing it.

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Jonathan Foxman's avatar

Like many other countries including the US, Israel is not a signatory and, therefore, not under the jurisdiction of the ICC (and for good reason), so its warrants are performative and meaningless.

Genocide is a defined crime under international law and, no, Israel has not been found guilty of genocide because its actions do not meet the criteria. Ireland even acknowledged that when it petitioned the ICC to change the definition of genocide in order to make Israel guilty of it.

Anyway, I think Substack is a good place for people like us to write what we feel is important and, hopefully, others will get some value from it. No point in arguing more about this. We can always go to X for that!

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William Sanchez's avatar

Palestine is a signatory of the international criminal court since 2015 and Benjamin Netanyahu's crimes were committed in occupied palestinian territory therefore his war crimes are under the jurisdiction of the international criminal court. Every country that is a signatory of the ICC is obligated under international law to arrest him if he enters their territory.

You are right that the United States has not signed up but I am going to do everything in my power to advocate for the United States to become a signatory of the international criminal court So that when war criminals like Benjamin Netanyahu come here we arrest them.

Israel is committing genocide so if you are interested in actually engaging with the anti genocide perspective, check out my post "Israel's Genocide in Gaza" (linked in my first comment) and try to debunk it in a serious way engaging with the facts.

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Alex Sanchez's avatar

It's always the Nazis you compare him to. I pray you read a book: being illiterate about history will be bad for the next generation. If feeding your enemy is hitler - you've lost the plot.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

Please consider less engagement and more

Your lies give us virtue

There is no other nation in the world that has a stronger, longer-standing, and better-documented connection to its land than the Jewish people has to the Land of Israel, and this connection and right do not require the affirmation of foreign governments.

Israel acts in accordance with international law. The establishment of a Jewish state in the Jewish people's ancient homeland, including the settlement by Jews on the land, was clearly recognized in the British Mandate, which was adopted by the League of Nations in 1922. Under the Mandate, the right of the Jewish people to build their national home extended to the entire territory of "Mandatory Palestine."

These rights were preserved under Article 80 of the UN Charter.

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William Sanchez's avatar

Benjamin Netanyahu has an International Criminal Court arrest warrant for starvation

https://youtu.be/B1mwWpniv_Y?si=MUSCt-u63dx1C1pD

Civilians including are starving to death every day because of the man-made famine Netanyahu created

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Netanyahu is engaged in an extermination campaign against millions of people who he dehumanized to his own supporters; he almost couldn't be closer to the modern day Adolf Hitler.

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JWBH's avatar

Mr. Sanchez,

No clear genocidal intent exists.

—Gaza’s population has grown significantly over the last 40 years.

—Hamas LOVES civilian casualties—for propaganda purposes, which works very well (hence this thread)

—The term genocide is being used inaccurately and inappropriately against Israel despite actual genocides elsewhere, whose victims don’t benefit from a well-funded propaganda machine and a corrupt UN agency dedicated to their cause.

—Israel has the means to destroy Gaza completely—but does not do so, indeed it provides aid.

—Hamas and Iran are 100% responsible for the civilian casualties from this war, and they actually have a stated genocidal policy against Israel.

Also, Hamas attacked just as the Abraham accords could have made further progress, as they couldn’t bear of the thought of Saudi normalizing relations with Israel—which is going to happen.

Radical Islam has done zero for its adherents. It brings misery, death, and destruction. The universe is 13 billion years old with trillions of stars and planets. The idea that one man 1415 years ago has all the answers and should be obeyed to the point of murdering infidels who happen to be on the living on the same rock in this giant universe is beyond ridiculous and sad.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

The anti-semite revels in US turning out our pockets to explain ourselves please consider instead

Your lies give us virtue 🕊️🇮🇱

There is no other nation in the world that has a stronger, longer-standing, and better-documented connection to its land than the Jewish people has to the Land of Israel, and this connection and right do not require the affirmation of foreign governments.

Israel acts in accordance with international law. The establishment of a Jewish state in the Jewish people's ancient homeland, including the settlement by Jews on the land, was clearly recognized in the British Mandate, which was adopted by the League of Nations in 1922. Under the Mandate, the right of the Jewish people to build their national home extended to the entire territory of "Mandatory Palestine."

These rights were preserved under Article 80 of the UN Charter.

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William Sanchez's avatar

All of that is wrong.

- There is absolutely clear undeniable genocidal intent if you look at the comments of Smotrich, Ben Gvir, and even Benjamin Netanyahu referencing amalek.

- Hamas is not using human shields, has not been shown to use human shields, and is not the cause of Israel's massive attacks against civilians. That is a lie used by Israelis to justify their deliberate attacks on civilians.

- The term genocide is being accurately applied to Israel's war crimes in Gaza. That has been the conclusion of the consensus of human rights experts across the world including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, UN experts and special committees, B'tselem, and many more experts.

- Israel had the means to enact a siege and starve the population of gaza to death and that is exactly what it is doing. Saying they have the capability to kill everybody while they are actively killing everybody is not the defence you think it is.

- In both instances, Iran and Palestine, Israel is the aggressor committing offense war crimes. Iran has been fighting in self-defense. Palestinians have been under occupation for decades so they tried to break free.

- Israel is responsible for all the innocent people Israel is killing on purpose.

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Jonathan Foxman's avatar

The comparisons to Hitler and Nazis is mostly purposeful antagonism, though some are fooled by the deluge of misinformation. I don't know which is happening here, but please just think about the facts. Fewer than 100 people per month in Gaza (out of a population of two million) have died of malnutrition during this war ... and that's not dramatically higher than it was before the war, not to mention Hamas' role in diverting food aid. Anyway, ~100 per month. Hitler directly murdered six million Jews, not to mention the tens of millions who died in his war. And most of those six million were shot into pits our gassed in death camps. To compare Netanyahu, who presides over a government that warns civilians before it bombs, creates humanitarian corridors, institutes humanitarian pauses in the fighting, repeatedly makes ceasefire offers that are rejected by Hamas, releases hundreds of Palestinian convicted criminals and administratively held suspects for every Israeli hostage released, does not use the obvious means at his disposal to kill Palestinians, etc., to Hitler is utterly ridiculous.

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Jonathan Foxman's avatar

Even Al Jazeera just yesterday, quoting the Palestinian Health Ministry in Gaza, reported that 266 people had died of starvation in the then 22 months since the war began! That's what you call a genocide by starvation? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/18/israel-starving-gaza-hundreds-of-deaths-including-many-children

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William Sanchez's avatar

Also Hamas has repeatedly offered to return all of the hostages taken on October 7th in return for all of the hostages Israel held an administrative detention prior to October 7th.

That goes back to the all for all deal Hamas offered in October 2023, it continues to the ceasefire reached at the beginning of this year which would have seen all the hostages released that Benjamin Netanyahu broke and pulled out of, and it applies to the current deal on the table that Hamas has agreed to which would see all the hostages released that Benjamin Netanyahu still to this day right now refuses to accept.

Also remember that Israel held thousands of palestinians with no charges, no trial, and no crimes even being committed before October 7th; that is what administrative detention means just look it up from B'tselem.

The entire reason Hamas even took hostages to begin with was to offer them as a bargaining chip so all palestinian hostages would be released and all Israeli hostages would be released immediately. And that is exactly what Hamas offered; an all for all deal in October 2023.

Netanyahu has refused to allow the hostages to go home in exchange for peace because he does not want peace. He wants the extermination of palestinians in gaza so Israeli religious fundamentalists can annex that territory. Netanyahu’s government has been absolutely clear from the very beginning of this war they do not care about the hostages at all in any sense.

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William Sanchez's avatar

World War 2 started in 1939 yet Hitler and the Nazis did not announce the final solution until 1942. Although the Nazi holocaust lasted years and many people died outside of 1942, that year is when the vast majority of the worst atrocities occurred in a short time span of a few months.

Right now we are at the 1942 point in Netanyahu’s Final Solution for Palestine. At a bare minimum Israel has killed a classroom full of children every day for the last 600+ days in relentless fighter jet bombings, IDF snipers targeting Palestinian kids with head & chest shots, tanks firing on crowds of hungry people, and yes also from starvation. That might not be enough for you to oppose Netanyahu’s war crimes, but seriously why not?

Benjamin Netanyahu enacted a siege of Gaza in 2023 stating that they would cut off food and water to what they described as "human animals" in gaza.

The population of Gaza has slowly been running out of all food stored in the territory while everyone from doctors to paramedics to children are losing all fat stores on their body from chronic underconsumption.

That starvation campaign is already causing widespread deaths of children and adults from malnutrition. The world food program director described the situation as children withering away to the size of skeletons before passing away from prolonged hungry.

Which makes Netanyahu truly evil for lying about allowing in food into Gaza. Anthony Aguilar the American green beret who resigned from the GHF has stated, the "food distribution sites" currently in Gaza are death traps meant to lure starving Palestinians in to be shot by IDF snipers and tanks. That is Netanyahu’s doing; intentionally shooting the people he is starving to death while they seek out food.

So now we have a population of over a million starving people in Gaza desperately flooding GHF food sites for whatever scraps they could get their hands-on while being shot at by the Israeli military which is enacting the siege which created the man-made famine to begin with.

Not only is Benjamin Netanyahu engaged in the same type of evil extermination campaign in Gaza that Hitler did in Europe, anyone who supports Netanyahu is a modern day holocaust denier. Never Again is now because Benjamin Netanyahu is enacting his Final Solution for Palestine.

Please look up Anthony Aguilar, Cindy McCain, and the endless stream of doctors who served in Gaza describing the undeniable annihilation campaign underway there.

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Stephen Lowy's avatar

Netanyahu has a warrant out for his arrest put out by a court that Israel and others don’t recognize. (The US has also sanctioned officials of the ICC.

It’s a warrant only. N hasn’t been tried yet. Therefore he’s not a war criminal. Please learn your facts. Hard work I know.

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Stephen Lowy's avatar

William Sanchez your knowledge is extremely limited if you compare Auschwitz with Gaza. You wrote “that is exactly what is happening in Gaza”.

Not even close. In Gaza, where are the barracks, where are the gas chambers, the crematoriums, the open pits where hundreds of thousands of victims are machined gun down and buried, the barracks where experimentation on live humans take place?

There are over 2m Gazans and according to the Islamist terrorists only 60k have died in the current war with a large number of these being combatants. Hardly an attack with the objective to eradicate all Palestinian Arabs.

Never again was said by Jews FOR Jews. We will never put ourselves in a position of being led to the slaughter, never again — Not by the Islamists, the self-righteous leftists, nor the Jew-haters like yourself.

If you want to protest ‘Never Again’ universally, for all peoples, everywhere, then you should turn to the larger wars and real atrocities in MENA. I suggest you start with Sudan and Yemen. That ought to keep your outrage busy for a long time to come.

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Sam B's avatar

Well, that was a mess of self righteous, narcissistic excuses for murdering civilians.

Oct 7 was awful and Hamas is evil. But pretending Israel is a moral, righteous actor is profoundly dishonest.

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Sam B's avatar
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On the side of Hamas???

No … against people like you who think killing civilians is justified by either side. Sheesh.

And by what authority? I’m paying for the bombs!

Clearly, you are a keyboard warrior who thinks it’s fun to wallow in moral superiority with no clue as to the realities of war.

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Sam B's avatar

I’m a vet. My dad served in Vietnam.

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Stephen Lowy's avatar

Do you even know what you were fighting for? Obviously not if you are on the side of Hamas, a recognized terrorist organization.

Israel is NOT Vietnam. Two different countries, peoples, histories and political situations.

By what authority do you talk about Israel Hamas conflict?

Where did you serve? Let’s see what you know about the Middle East.

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Sam B's avatar

So much rationalizing the IDF atrocities leading to the suffering of civilians.

But it’s so easy when it isn’t your family.

You’re disgusting.

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Stephen Lowy's avatar

Waiting for substance. Name calling doesn’t do it.

It’s a war, child. Have you studied any history of wars? Have you studied any history? Have you studied? Or is it Tik Tok all the way down?

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Stephen Lowy's avatar

No need to pretend. Israel is too moral for its own good. It should eliminate the enemy in the way any other country would — flatten it.

And if you think that is overkill, to end WWII, the US dropped 2 nuclear bombs on Japan and the Allies carpet bombed Germany. Hundreds of thousands of civilians, yes even babies suckling at their mothers’ breasts, were killed.

The Jewish state will do what it needs to do to protect itself.

You have no idea of particulars of this conflict. Foxman laid it all out for you but all you come back with is self-righteous empty prattle and pearl clutching.

Come back with something substantive or respectfully, STFU.

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